For French-speaking Switzerland
Jean-Claude LÜTHI

 

Ch. des Manons 2C
1218 Gd-SACONNEX (Genève) Suisse
T+Fax: 4122. 788 6711
E-mail: [email protected]



 
Article du Jeudi 4 juillet 2002 dans la


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Locked up and confined for a long time in Saudi Arabia

1) Marie et ses enfants sont bien arrivées ce matin du mercredi 24 juillet 2002 à Genève !

Album de Marie


from Saudi Arabia

 


he does not care

 


the grandfather
"inch'allah your two daughters will die"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


at that point I realized that I was trapped

 

 

 

 

 

 


he could divorce me on the same day

 

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I turned then to my father-in-law and kissed his foot

 


medical cast on my arm

 


I was afraid of my husband who might have an excess of madness and drunkenness

 

 

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my husband refuses to stand before the judge

 

 

 


In theory it's beautiful, but in practice it's a nightmare

 

 

 

 

 


they are a big and wealthy family in Saudi Arabia

 

 

 

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 2) what really happened to my children and me

Since my  return from Saudi Arabia with my children, a lot of new things have happened to us. We are free, that's the most important  point,  but the hardest thing is to build a new life - as a single mother - for my two daughters. I do not receive any help from the father of my children, or from his family.
I tried to talk to my husband but he refuses to help me or our daughters, stating that because I asked for a divorce, I should assume alone the responsibilities and face all of the consequences alone; never mind that my children are suffering, he does not care. The only option he gives me is to come back with him to Saudi Arabia and be a good wife, then he will provide for all of us.
He is sure that in a few months i will beg him to take me back out of misery and desperation; but I prefer misery and poverty for my daughters and me rather than continue the life that I left behind.
And if there is one gift that i can give to my two daughters Mezna (4 years) and Salma (2 years), it will be FREEDOM and a solid education.

"inch'allah your two daughters will die"

I have contacted the grandfather  (Mr.ABDELAZIZ  ABDALLAH HASSAN AL-NAIM) and the uncle (Mr. ABDALLAH ABDELAZIZ HASSAN AL NAIM). The answer I got from the grandfather first was: "inch'allah your two daughters will die" and from my brother-in-law :" I don't care and I'm ready to help you only if you come back to Saudi Arabia ".

Coming from two people who trapped me in the first place and lied to me by convincing me to come to Saudi Arabia with the plan to lock up my children and me to live and stay by force in their country.
My father-in-law pretended he was dying and asked me in tears if he could see his two granddaughters at least one last time before his death. He kept swearing that he would protect me from my husband and that I could leave his country at my convenience with my children.
Full of trust, I went over there to see my dying father-in-law and let him see his two granddaughters before his make believe death. On arrival in Dammam on the 1st  of May  2002 I could barely believe what I saw:  my father-in-law wasn't there on his deathbed,  but was travelling and came back only on the date of my return flight, which I never took. From the time of my arrival, I kept asking for news about my father-in-law's return and the only answer I got was "soon!".
Finally, on the morning of the 11th of May - my departure date from Saudi Arabia - my husband informed me that my father-in-law had finally come home and that I should get ready to visit him: I prepared my kids and was ready to go when my husband told me to come alone without my children. At that point I realized that I was trapped.
I followed my husband, full of fear. As soon as I entered my father-in-law's house I understood that something was very wrong, I kissed my husband's parents on the forehead and my sister-in-law ( Mrs. Munira Abdelaziz Al-Naim) and sat down. My husband then grabbed my arm and asked me to follow him to another room, followed by the whole family.

I was on the floor like an animal


There was a man seated, a total stranger to me, My husband immediately started to scream at me that I was not a faithful wife, that I was a whore, a bad mother, responsible for the loss of his entire fortune - all this in front of my husband's family. I was on the floor like an animal, crying and screaming, begging for mercy and knowing that the only purpose of this whole little masquerade was to take my children away from me.
After a few minutes I summoned my pride and stood up. I asked the seated man who he was. When he told me that he was a judge and that my husband had asked him to come so that he could divorce me on the same day and send me back to my country without my children, I told him that I wanted to contact the Swiss and French Embassies in Riad. They told me this was not neccessary and that they could do nothing for me, that I had no rights, even with the triple nationalities of my two children.
I called my Mum with my cell phone to tell her that I was done for, that they were going to take and keep my babies and that I would never see them again, that this trip was a plan made by my husband and my in-laws to take my daughters from me and to raise them like perfect little Saudis.
My Mum was desperate, told me to hang on that she would immediately call the Embassies, which is exactly what she did.
At the same time, my husband asked me to sign some papers written in Arabic. First I refused and asked to have them translated into English, but then, at the request of my husband, the pretending judge pulled out some other papers and put them right next to the one that I was refusing to sign, telling me that if I wanted to continue to refuse to sign, my husband would sign the other papers and that I would be automatically divorced on the spot, and would have to leave on the same day for Geneva.
When I told them that I refused to leave without my children, the pretending judge said he would contact the Embassies so they would be present and that the police would handcuff me and take me to the plane.

I turned then to my father-in-law and kissed his foot


I turned then to my father-in-law and kissed his foot, begging him to protect me. He said that I had what I deserved because I had wanted to divorce his son in the first place.
My husband, seeing me in this state of pain and fear, felt pity for me, I think, because he told the man in Arabic that if I signed these papers, he would not divorce me, but would let me live in the same house as my children. Again I begged my father-in-law to protect me as he had promised. He did not even look me in the eyes, but answered me that from now on, I should just behave like a Saudi woman, that I was no different from my sisters-in-law, that I should start praying, covering my self totally when I was out in public or with them, that I should fast...
I couldn't believe what I was hearing, and knew at that time that I could expect nothing from any of them.
They did not care about the reasons I had for wanting to divorce, why I was unhappy with my husband, about the years of abuse, violence, beating. They did not remember how on many occasions I had gone to them asking them to protect me from my husband; once I even went to see to my father-in-law with guns and a revolver, and bullets in a plastic bag, asking him to keep them because I was afraid of my husband who might have an excess of madness and drunkenness (just a reminder: alcohol is totally forbidden by Islam and not allowed in the Holy Land of the prophet Mohamed) that he would try to kill me as he had said he would for many years.
That at one point I had run in pyjamas in the middle of the night to my brother-in-law (Mr.ABDALLAH ABDELAZIZ HASSAN AL-NAIM) crossing barefoot the two gardens which separated our two houses, his wife opening the door after more than fifteen long minutes. He wasn't there, so his wife, not knowing what to do, called him to tell him that I was in tears and that he should speak to me (that was in December 2001). I told him that my husband was going to beat me again like he did the night before, on the evening of the New Year's eve; he told me not to move, that he would speak to his brother and call me back, which he did. He then told me I had nothing more to fear, that he had spoken to his brother and that I should go back to my house, and that in half an hour he would be there.
I went back to my house; but he never came, not caring at all what could have happened to me. I have in mind hundreds of memories like this; it is only now that I start to realize that love should not be painful and that I have been a victim of my husband's cruelty for more than ten years.
I met my husband when I was young - 17 years old. Not having had a father during my childhood, a big gap had been created in my life. My husband filled that gap and abused my love and trust.

Without any help from my husband

Since my return I have had to assume responsibility for the future of my two children without any help from my husband or his family. I also have to deal with the judicial system to legalize my divorce in Switzerland; this could really take time since my husband refuses to stand before the judge, pretending, like his father, that his health wouldn't allow him to travel and that he is depressive. I also have to deal with the lies he's trying to spread to the people I know.
We are all living with my mother and my brother; thank God I have them, otherwise I would be in the street with my two small children. Since August 2002, my ex-husband has not sent me any money (for 3 months), nothing. For me, this is proof that he does not care about the well being of his children and that he is totally irresponsible.
Sometimes when his daughters want to speak to him he does'nt answer, but keeps hanging up the phone. This is a horrible situation; how can I explain all this to my 4- and 2-year-old without hurting them?
Daily I have to deal with a lot of hard things; and in most situations I wish I had the solutions, but right now, I don't. I just take my life a day at a time hoping that some light will come through one day, soon. I just have to keep my head straight, because I am all that my children have left.
I'm working now to write a book about life in Saudi Arabia in a typical family, about the difficulties that I faced, and finally about our return to Geneva. I don't believe in bi-cultural marriage anymore, and I wish to alert women from a Christian background not to marry Muslims. In theory, it's beautiful, but in practice it's a nightmare.
I still have a small hope that we could work out our differences for the sake of our two daughters, but the sad thing is that I could never trust him again, even if he were sincere.

We brought our two children into this world out of love.

My dearest hope is that this country (Saudi Arabia) might free itself from its Middle Age ways and become a modern nation. I was frightened while in Saudi Arabia with my children against my wish to discover that my children and I as FRENCH and SWISS citizens could not be helped in any way by the Embassies because of the laws of the country.

As a parent. I strongly believe that we have no rights over our children, only duties toward them. Since my return to Geneva, I have been in a very critical financial situation. I am still hoping that my husband or his family, especially the grandfather of my two daughters, might help to provide for his grandchildren

Especially since they are a big and wealthy family in Saudi Arabia. My daughters should not be affected by our disputes, it does not concern them. I think the family should secure their upbringing so that I can raise them in dignity so that they should not have to face poverty.

Since the familly of Abdelaziz Abdallah Al-Naim says that they love our two daughters as their own and they are known in their country for always helping the poor, they should support MEZNA (4 years old) and SALMA (2 years old) as well as help my husband to get back on his feet.

I have had a few discussions since my return to Geneva with my father-in-law who has not been constructive at all. Absolutely no solutions or any kind of help from him were proposed when I begged him to be generous enough to help his son, not to reject him and to provide for my two daughters so that they have a roof over their heads, food in their mouths and clothes on their backs; but I am still hoping that he could help all of us.

For a man of his culture and religion, I do not understand why he has been so unkind. I still respect him and used to love him as my own father, but I cannot understand his ways of thinking.

3) Le père n'est pas privé de ses relations avec ses enfants

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    4) Le danger persiste ...

The danger for my daughters will always be there, probably until they get married because in this country a father never loses custody or rights over his children, never. A woman can never be her own master, she is an eternal teenagers, always depending on her father, husband, brother, son ...  And it goes on and on. 

I don't know what to expect from the futur but I will always be afraid that someone, somewhere is waiting or preparing to take my children away. This is my worst nightmare.

I beg our governments to intervain for us, mothers who have been threatened to loose our children or for the ones less lucky than me who have been separeted from their own flesh, this situation should not happend anymore in 2002, our governments have to get toghether and force these countries to sign these commun policies.

Religion should not be a weapon for rulers to hide behind. There is a huge financial interest which is keeping our countries from fighting for our rights, but from my part, self respect and freedom is more important than their PETRODOLLARS.

I talk from my own misery, for the ones (mothers) who are or will be in this situation and for all these women who are opressed day by day by their own people.
The Saudi consulate in Geneva has since then appointed a libanese lawyer (not from the Barreau of Geneva) to assist and defend my ex-husband, not only I have to fight my husband but as well his country. I find it very bizzare and rude that the state of Saudi Arabia is trying to interfere in private affairs which has nothing to do with diplomatic matters. 

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Mezna
AL NOAIM
born in Geneva (Switzerland)
december 25, 1997
and
Salma
AL NOAIM
born in Geneva (Switzerland)
february 8 , 2000


 
 

and their Mother

Marie
AL NOAIM
born ROZES
born in Bordeaux (France)
september 8 , 1974

5) Remerciements

I want to thank the people who have helped me to get my freedom back, Mr. Thierry Ador, Mr. Tal Schiebler and Mrs. Anne Sonnex lawyers at the Barreau de Geneve as well as all treir firm. My mother. Mr. Jean-Claude Luthi who dedicates his time to reunited mothers with their childrens. A very speacial friend who I wont say the name, She will recognise herself. The procureur Mr. Daniel Zappelli, the police who has been so kind, the judge and all my friends.

Marie Rozes 

 

3) Le père n'est pas privé de ses relations avec ses enfants

From now on, my ex husband is allowed  by the the swiss justice to visit his two daughters only under the supervision of the state of Geneva. This is the result of his actions against our liberty to live where we have decided to, free from fanatism and intolerance.In no way I'am trying to keep apart  the father of Mezna and Salma or his familly not being able to see their childrens.

If I ever should lose them, I know that this will be the end for me and that there will be no way  to ever see them again or simply being able to love and raise my children. Kids should never be a way to exercise a pressure of any kind on anybody, they have the right to stay with their mother without excluding visits from their dad.

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The Father
Abdulrahman
AL NOAIM

born in Dammam
(Saudi Arabia)
mars 21, 1961

 
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THESE CHILDREN ARE  STILL IN DANGER


 
 


AB and Arthur, our lovely dog

Moudhi Abdelaziz AL-NAIM (Gd-ma 1998)
and Abdelaziz AL-NAIM (Gd-pa 2001) with Mezna 

My father in law statement when I begged for help:
"inch'allah your two daughters will die"

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For French-speaking Switzerland
Jean-Claude LÜTHI

Ch. des Manons 2C
1218 Gd-SACONNEX (Genève) Suisse
T+Fax+VTX: 4122. 788 6711
E-mail: [email protected]